| 32590 | Dunckan 2021-02-26 07:43:16 | If Duke Nukem was about to comment ChessBase selling Stockfish team work in disguise, probably would say to them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPO3PfHRuGM
Duke Nukem |
| 32589 | Dunckan 2021-02-26 07:40:21 | You, guys, sac. |
| 32588 | Mrert 2021-02-22 21:14:28 | Never underestimate ChessBase/Albert Silver's ability to scam people |
| 32587 | sad13 2021-02-22 21:03:29 | >Engine and NN should have been kept separated.
Chessbase could embed it in their "stockfih-based" engine. It would be hard for the stockfish team to have avoided the discussion about embedding altogether and ChessBase would have known about it most likely... |
| 32586 | Aina 2021-02-22 15:07:00 | As a result of a previous poll, asking whether the NN should be included in the binary or not.
Now Chessbase can say that FF2 is not stockfish because it has a different NN. While normally they just made Stockfish use another NN. They just sell the NN, to use with Stockfish. Now they are able to say they use an engine "based" on Stockfish. While they are in reality just NN maker. Engine and NN should have been kept separated. |
| 32585 | HW 2021-02-21 22:04:41 | Just downloaded the latest version (Timestamp: 1613857779) and in infinite analysis it seems to just stop after about 5 mins on my 28 core machine, I tried this twice. Went back to SF13 and it does not hang in the same way. |
| 32584 | Mrert 2021-02-21 18:12:38 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojKJn9zFST0
Hikaru talking about FF2. It would be nice to have guys like Stéphane or Joost on stream to talk about that |
| 32583 | Mrert 2021-02-21 00:03:40 | well no newer net passed the progression test so they stick with 28112020 |
| 32582 | Stock of Fish 2021-02-20 19:00:07 | https://chessengines.blogspot.com/2021/02/stockfish-13-for-android-official.html?m=1
Download SF 13 for Android. |
| 32581 | SF13 2021-02-20 18:04:35 | I am talking about 3 months old NNUE which is still default in SF13 |
| 32580 | SF 14 2021-02-20 17:19:47 | Sf developers please update sf13 binaries and sf13 for Android. |
| 32579 | Chess Enthusiast 85 2021-02-20 12:58:44 | Stockfish page has updated everything to SF13 except android binaries! |
| 32578 | SF 14 2021-02-20 10:06:43 | why sf developers not updating the remaining elo gainer patches? |
| 32577 | Mrert 2021-02-19 22:00:10 | The net is bundled in the executable that's why you don't see it. |
| 32576 | SF13 2021-02-19 21:55:55 | thanks a lot for SF13, but new NNUE is missing... |
| 32575 | Mrert 2021-02-19 21:52:18 | LeelaFish... basically a siren ^^ |
| 32574 | sad13 2021-02-19 21:02:37 | I also think stockfish is about to get as bug-free as possible if it weren't already ! |
| 32573 | sad13 2021-02-19 21:02:00 | >Going forward, the Leela Chess Zero and Stockfish teams will join
forces to demonstrate our commitment to open source chess engines and training tools, and open data. We are convinced that our free and open-source chess engines serve the chess community very well. Very well? They currently serve it better than anything else ! Thank goodness you guys want to do that! (well, I just like chess engines and I am not an expert in need of the strongest one so being able to run the best chess engine for free is so cool, thank you ! ) |
| 32571 | Mrert 2021-02-19 20:04:26 | @ChessGambit101: It seems SF team has not tested new nets in a while. So no one knows what they're worth. The safe choice is the default one because we know it is strong.
It is possible that one of the new nets is better, but it will be only a few among the 160. And it would not yield more than a couple of elo points. The only way to know would be to test every single one of them. I would stick with the default net. |
| 32570 | Lalit Mohan Bankoti 2021-02-19 19:46:31 | Yeahhhhhh!! Stockfish 13 released. Hurrah!!!!!! |
| 32569 | ChessGambit101 2021-02-19 07:22:50 | Open question:
I am currently using the network 'nn-62ef826d1a6d.nnue' (introduced 20-11-28). According to https://tests.stockfishchess.org/nns this is the 'default net' during the development of Stockfish. However, there are approximately 160 'more current' networks submitted by different users. My focus is 'correspondence chess' (i.e. very long time controls against super strong chess players). Does anyone know if ANY of these other networks are stronger or better (it's hard to find the right adjective)? And, how do I know the right network to pick going forward? |
| 32568 | Mrert 2021-02-19 19:11:07 | yay sf13 |
| 32567 | Mrert 2021-02-17 18:26:31 | They should post this staement on their fb/twitter accounts for maximum visibility.
Of course the "proprietary network" had to be from Albert Silver. He pulled the same stunt with Leela's weights if I remember correctly, with no added value of course. In french we say : "Les cons ça ose tout, c'est à ça qu'on les reconnaît" (Idiots dare to do anything, that's how we recognize them.) |
| 32566 | sad13 2021-02-17 10:03:36 | The stockfish team seems to have taken a stance about fat fritz 2
https://blog.stockfishchess.org/post/643239805544792064/statement-on-fat-fritz-2 |
| 32565 | Lalit Mohan Bankoti 2021-02-17 04:36:46 | Come on stockfish 13!come on!! |